AMD Addresses Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 Series Memory Overclocking And Configuration Details
If you saw our story yesterday
about Ryzen 7000's one-DIMM-per-channel memory speed limitation, then you may have had the same brainwave we did: what does this mean for Ryzen's Infinity Fabric? On extant Ryzen processors, lowering the memory speed usually reduces the speed of communications within the processor. However, thanks to fresh info from AMD's Robert Hallock, it seems that won't be the case with Zen 4.
As a refresher, Intel's processors
use a ring bus that connects the processor cores and their cache with the "uncore," or all of the things that are not "processor cores and cache." The ring bus doesn't share a clock domain with the memory controller, so they can run at different speeds. On Ryzen
, the "Infinity Fabric" that serves a similar function does share a clock domain with the memory controller. That means that when you tune your RAM, you're also tuning the speed of the processor's interconnect.
In practical terms what this means is that Ryzen CPUs' performance is affected much more by their memory speed than Intel's processors are. That's why you'll see build guides around the web insisting on high-performance memory for Ryzen rigs even more than for Intel machines. Modern Ryzen systems have the ability to decouple these clocks, but it is generally considered to be not worth the hassle as it can introduce additional latency from the clock mismatch.
/r/AMD Discord screenshot from Bionic_squash (@SquashBionic on Twitter).
Well, speaking to some folks on the Reddit /r/AMD Discord—that's a Discord chat server for users of the /r/AMD subreddit, if you're confused—AMD's Robert Hallock explained that overclocking the memory on Zen 4 is different from prior Zen processors. You can see what he wrote in the screenshot above, but essentially what he's saying is that the best results come from decoupling the fabric clock (FCLK) and the memory clock on Zen 4.
So saying, adjusting the memory speed won't necessarily affect your fabric clock speed with Zen 4, just like the better Zen 3 boards. That's encouraging, especially in the case of users who want to run four DIMMs. If your memory has to drop to a slow speed like 3600 or 4000 MT/s, you won't necessarily be faced with a super-slow fabric clock.
Hallock also officially confirmed the 6000 MT/s DDR5 "sweet spot" for Zen 4.
It's interesting to see that the default FCLK on Raphael is in fact 1733 MHz. That's well within the achievable range of FCLK for Zen 3 processors, and far from the 3000 that many people thought might be achievable with Zen 4. In case you're out of the loop, when it leaked
that AMD considers DDR5-6000 to be the "sweet spot" for Zen 4, many people assumed that that meant Zen 4 would clock its fabric to 3000 MHz.
Instead, it seems that the way Zen 4 achieves such high memory clocks is simply through decoupling those clock rates. The FCLK still runs in the same range of frequencies that it does with Zen 3. Hallock notes that some chips may be able to do 2000 MHz or faster, which is true of Zen 3 as well. It's just that the RAM is free to run as fast as you can get it to go.